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The Adversaries

Forum for the discussion of all things related to The Multiverse (the intermixing of several book worlds). ;)
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"With all the cross-reality interactions coming up now, it would make sense to have a "master" spoiler thread.

The rules are basically that the thread can contain spoilers for any P.S. Power book in the larger interconnected multi-verse (which really should get some kind of name) that is available on amazon. (So excluding books that are currently in "public" editing, but everything else is fair game)." ~ qHnED7SnYgQs
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Re: The Adversaries

Unread postby Ronald Dukarski » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:29 am

In general relativity, time varies in relation to speed ,therefore , it can be assumed that each dimension or reality, is moving at a different speed in relation to each other. Some faster; some slower. So, not really a paradox.



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Unread postby MasterfulZora » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:53 pm

Only most realities still experience time at the same/similar rate even though they are at different places in the timeline, with the most notable difference being in the Tor reality, where time progresses at I think it was 8 times faster than the rest.

But this could also be a difference in the time constant in their reality compared to the other ones we know, not just that it's 'location' in the Void between worlds progresses or moves faster than the others.



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Unread postby qHnED7SnYgQs » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:46 am

In an infinite multiverse of infinite universes(/realities) everything exists an infinite number of times. For every works of fiction you've ever read, seen, or heard, there exists an infinite number of universes in P.S. Powers multiverse where the described events have happened, are happening, or will happen.

As such, no further explanation is needed for why the specific realities described in the books exist in the described state. The only thing you can wonder about is why Dale is writing about these specific grouping of interacting realities and not one of the infinite other existing groupings of of realities.



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Unread postby Blame » Wed May 17, 2017 4:56 am

David wrote:Yeah, I don't get that either. An infinite amount of realities the size of our universe is hardly limited or small.

All that shows is we've only seen a small part of it. I suppose in that way it makes the plot a very thin slice of the realities, but realistically he'd have to write an infinite number of books to fully flesh it out. Which is just absurd. However, what we have seen is enough to clarify the war of existence being fought.

Blame, could you clarify that comment and question? Although the answer to the question is yes, one reality is one universe, including all the stuff we as humans can't perceive.


Sorry but I ain't been around for a while.

Realities seem to branch off due to earth based events. That suggests that they are limited to local space. If they cover all 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the universe then presumably realities also split off due to events local to each and every one. Possibly only the ones with sentient life but still lots.

In that case the first splits happen before the world and any sentient life we are in contact with existed. At least that is the way to bet. The number in contact is finite. The total huge.

My guess is that the size of a reality is sort of subjective. Between stars nobody is looking all that hard so they fizzle out. Would anybody notice if interstellar travel is dimensional travel or if the starlight at night is shared by many local dimensions?



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Unread postby David » Wed May 17, 2017 7:47 am

I don't think that first part is correct. In the YA storyline there are aliens from other worlds, all who have seen the enemies who want to destroy reality, people of their kind. Events are told from Earth, mostly because we live there I'd imagine.

I also don't think realities share stars or matter, or anything like that. Not sure how that would even work.

Again, the YA people have been to other stars.



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Unread postby Blame » Wed May 17, 2017 10:35 am

David wrote:I don't think that first part is correct. In the YA storyline there are aliens from other worlds, all who have seen the enemies who want to destroy reality, people of their kind. Events are told from Earth, mostly because we live there I'd imagine.

I also don't think realities share stars or matter, or anything like that. Not sure how that would even work.

Again, the YA people have been to other stars.


But so much is left open. The YA storyline solves little because interstellar travel could easily be across dimensions without anybody noticing. Not that much of a stretch when one can walk to other dimensions. What appears to be one reality could be several.

However you look at it accesses to realities is not random. The same characters turn up when they shouldn't. Perhaps attack by the adversaries is another point of similarity that makes them accessible?

Consider this possibility. A group of individuals form the adversaries. They create a magic that allows them to travel to only realities where they all initially exist. They then attack some of those realities. The magic has the side effect of opening access to line walkers.



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Unread postby David » Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 pm

Ahh, got it. You think the aliens could just be another reality. But that doesn't quite ring true either. They don't just walk from reality to reality through a changing landscape like you're suggesting, otherwise normal humans would be doing it all the time, they do it through naturally occurring gates with a strict delineation of realties between one step and another. Think of it like a shortcut through to another reality instead of between Zack's house and the mall, but one that is naturally there instead of created by a line walker. I suppose the aliens could have found a space gate, but there is nothing in the books themselves to indicate that is true.

Either way, you made me think. You could be right, if some of the stars in the sky are seen through a natural gate occurring in space, but there is nothing to indicate that possibility in the books.



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Unread postby Blame » Wed May 17, 2017 1:16 pm

David wrote:Ahh, got it. You think the aliens could just be another reality. But that doesn't quite ring true either. They don't just walk from reality to reality through a changing landscape like you're suggesting, otherwise normal humans would be doing it all the time, they do it through naturally occurring gates with a strict delineation of realties between one step and another. Think of it like a shortcut through to another reality instead of between Zack's house and the mall, but one that is naturally there instead of created by a line walker. I suppose the aliens could have found a space gate, but there is nothing in the books themselves to indicate that is true.

Either way, you made me think. You could be right, if some of the stars in the sky are seen through a natural gate occurring in space, but there is nothing to indicate that possibility in the books.


Well not exactly. The whole premise of the books is based on mind powered reality altering magic. To the point that one has to ask without mind how much reality is left? My own feeling (but NOT, I think, P.S.Power's) is not a lot. I hold that it is the collected sentience within, or at least observing a reality that holds it together. Thus the whole of deep space is up for grabs because there isn't enough local will to hold it to a specific reality. Travel to another star and you arrive, but the local reality you arrive to is dependent on expectation.




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