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Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-05-01T13:25:59-05:00

It really does take four or five days to really hit the system for Amazon.

I think that's just because they're so large.

Statistics: Posted by PS Power — Mon May 01, 2017 1:25 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-05-01T07:27:40-05:00

It's an amazon thing.

No conspiracy, just a weird system that's consistent for every author. When I check for new KU books in sci-fi-fi/fantasy, I always have to lag back a day or two behind on publication date, so I don't miss most of them. Today's releases will consistently only show pre-published books in the system.

Statistics: Posted by David — Mon May 01, 2017 7:27 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-05-01T06:35:46-05:00

Glenn: It was put up on the 27th. (Zon almost always puts that date back a day. I do not know why, but it is virtually 100% of the time they do that.)

Then I put up that statement here, just to have something to say. So, it was available before that. (What, I have to come up with salient and useful comments ALL the time?)

I'm just trying to put aside this particular incident as a sign of conspiracy or failure on anyone's part. It wasn't except for me, not being more clever when I posted on the 29th. I wasn't trying to be misleading. I'll attempt not to be that boring in the future.

Statistics: Posted by PS Power — Mon May 01, 2017 6:35 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-30T17:17:59-05:00

I find it interesting that the release date was the 26th, but not available until the 29th.

Statistics: Posted by Glenn Cover — Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:17 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-29T13:14:56-05:00

So, the book seems to be up and alive! Yay!

Statistics: Posted by PS Power — Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:14 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-28T11:22:21-05:00

Agreed, but there is nothing shady about a reader getting a book on KU, reading it, and then buying it later on in a week or month. After all, amazon gets my ten bucks, plus a piece of the outright purchase.

If they didn't want legitimate double dips, all the books I read in KU wouldn't show up in recommendations.

That's my point, don't cheat the system, just use it.

Statistics: Posted by David — Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:22 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-28T10:18:41-05:00

I would assume there are networks of people that would acquire books via KU, goto end and then return the book just so they can all claim higher sales. Such a scam would be easy to detect. One could hope that Amazon would have dire consequences for people acting in such a manner.

Statistics: Posted by RyanM — Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:18 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-28T09:33:34-05:00

Yeah Ryan, that's what I was suggesting with my post. I think the Start bookmark scam of putting it at the end of the book was killed as a temporary an quick fix measure, they must have put in a better fix since then. I know they even estimate time until end of book based on my own reading speed in the kindle app. so they surely have the capability to use that kind of usage data to defeat scammers.

Better to just read it in KU, and buy it later if you really want to do that thing. What's the point in trying to defeat the system if you're going to read the book anyway?

Statistics: Posted by David — Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-28T09:07:14-05:00

It wouldn't be difficult to write an algorithm to detect for scammers. I can think of two ways:
1) Keep track of when a user starts and completes a book. A median pages/hour can be derived, if a person is outside a standard deviation (on the fast side), then it's probably safe to not count it.

2) Keep an average of a random sampling of readers to form a median read speed. If a reader is outside the standard deviation then take a look at the type of books they're reading and determine if they're gaming the system.

Statistics: Posted by RyanM — Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:07 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-28T01:18:49-05:00

Just for everyone that read the pre-release version: I just compared the pre-release version and the version on Amazon and there are significant differences beyond just spelling and grammar fixes, so probably worth reading it again.

Statistics: Posted by qHnED7SnYgQs — Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:18 am

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-27T23:13:13-05:00

They banned books with the TOC at the end of the book because just jumping to that would be enough to have the whole book counted for KU and there were scammers that filled books with 1000's of pages of crap and a TOC at the end...

Given that, I would assume that simply opening the book in Kindle and flipping through all the pages till the end would be enough too get them counted for KU.

Statistics: Posted by qHnED7SnYgQs — Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:13 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-27T17:07:56-05:00

Probably the regular sync updates with amazon the kindle app makes for furthest page read. The book should sync several times during reading showing a reasonable progression over time. Not sure if they're that clever or not to be honest. Really, it's best if you want to do that to just read it, and then buy it a week or even a month later or something, just to be sure of it. I bought my copy too, I suppose next time I'll try my idea myself.

Statistics: Posted by David — Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:07 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-27T16:51:20-05:00

aw dang!
will do that next time.

Statistics: Posted by MarciaA — Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:51 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-27T16:43:09-05:00

Zipping to the end doesn't seem to work. They only count it if you read the whole thing, I think. (How do they know? I have no clue.)

Statistics: Posted by PS Power — Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:43 pm

Avery Rome • Re: Dragon Queen: Avery Rome Book Three Live...

2017-04-27T16:31:08-05:00

Got it using kindle unlimited, zipped it to the end, then bought it after about half an hour. Hope you get double dips!

Statistics: Posted by MarciaA — Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:31 pm